There is some realism to what you say. But let's weave the Gospel into this, as we are the privileged witnesses of it.

One of the major things I have been learning these last 10-25 years (and the excommunication is to be thanked for much of it) is the need to replace that missing part of the Gospel that got dropped out back in early 1800's. You've heard the rant before, maybe even seen this article about how Gospel & Son of God are so hugely political or legal as pertaining to Christ as King/Emperor.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mark Harris <accountingman@gmail.com> wrote:

Even his passionate appeal won't make any difference.

Today in the USA there is too much ignorance of economics,  Huge problem, Rushdoony emphasized this is one area Pastors study too little. What's wrong with trying to repair it?

too much pandering to special interests, All seek their own, but what if our own interests were discovered to be the interests of the Lord Jesus Christ. What if we sought first the KINGdom of God? What if we preached that Lex was Rex and both king and poor convict were all subject to His laws.

too much debt, Actually, when you study the dollar, and you discover there is no dollar, and hasn't been one for US citizens to use since 1933, nor the world since 1971, and there is no way to pay a debt can be paid with this kind of currency (all banks can do is say they owe, or say you owe) -- you discover that there really IS no debt. It is just a lie the people believe to mask the grand-theft of everyman plundering his neighbor.

too much non-discretionary spending that will not be touched (most of which is for seniors), Oh, it will be touched alright. It is not like you and the Stone are not going to encounter each other somehow. But it is going to be either you will fall on that stone - voluntarily, sooner, and be broken a little bit -- or -- it will fall on you later and crush you to powder. It is the old long-run saying, Following Christ cost more than anything else......except not following Christ. The money for Seniors is gone, and they can never get it back. There is no way, this day, that a SS or Medicare check goes out, except that it is stolen from dollar-account-holders (via inflation), or stolen from tax-payers (most of whom will never get future benefits - and know it and will involuntarily tell you most of the time the subject comes up).

too little eagerness to cut military spending (and too much business dependent on that spending), etc. etc. This is why Ron Paul could never get elected. He would have put so many people out or work among the military and defense contractors - just trying to get the US out of the foreign-domination business. Huge unemployment (fall on this stone), temporarily, leading to productivity (instead of destroying persons and property and wasting wealth for no benefit) later. Instead, as the nations increase their anger for our aggression in forcing our inflation-theft upon them -- I picture their anger peaking at about the same time our economic power implodes with the loss of faith in the imaginary money. One can't help thinking of the harlot of Revelation -- all the trucks and ships brought goods into the Great City -- but what was it that came out of the City in trade? Her main export - imaginary money. We will say we owe you. This is why the evidence for the destruction of World Trade Center Buildings in NY is so important to the appeal to this generation. It is past reasonable doubt, to anyone who has studied it, that the highest leaders in our land (banking, government, media, including Education) were either Capital Criminals, partners with them, or under the curse of capital perjury for justifying their actions and falsely accusing some largely-innocent Arabs.

 

Any real solution will bring out rabid dogs such as appeared in the halls of legislature in Wisconsin. But these outbreaks work in the Church's favor, in that they emphasize the evil, insanity, and unreasonable foolishness of their thinking and actions. Think of the last news-month (October 2013) of President/Congress saying and doing the stupidest things about budget and debt. While the USD lives, there will never be another budget or debt-ceiling or any year where the US economy can spare enough taxes to pay more than what the civil government is spending. We knew this deep-down in our hearts, already, but still, there is a perverse delight in watching the curtain come down and exposing the despicable "little man....behind" it -- at least for those few who are still able to - as we like to say, "do the math".

Vested interests want everybody else's programs to be cut and everybody else to be taxed.  Not everybody. Not Christians or any of the People of the Book. Instead, they want to return the wallet that was lost, corral/feed the donkeys and elephants that are lost (until their owners can return for them), and help up the helpless that are fallen down. They want to ignore the tax-protest, until they can be compliant with refusing dishonest gain themselves, and call for everyman to do like they do. No govt expenditure, no benefit offered unless it conforms to the Law of the King which is Rex. They want to follow the Westminster Larger Catechism in how it prisms-out the meaning of the Eighth Commandment:

 

As soon as we allowed tax money to be raised and special interests to get their hands into the pot for transfers, entitlements, etc. the writing was probably on the wall. This is true. But remember, right after the handwritingonthewall, God's covenant people moved on to the next wonderful chapter in the History of Redemption, they returned to the land and rebuilt the temple, the wall, and the city (all symbolic of human  beings). The Holy Spirit by the Word of God is doing the same thing today. It was very instructive to read Alexander Stephen's

A Compendium of the History of the United States from the Earliest Settlements to 1872

There is no political rescue in sight.  Actually there is. In fact it is a Standing Rescue available anytime for anyone. It is called the Gospel. The Political Rescue of the Ages was accomplished in full sight of the Public, and recorded in a Book that has been the world-wide, best-selling volume every year since Mankind has keep records. It was accomplished under the Government-authorized Sign:

Only a massive national repentance will have any effect, which requires God's providential control - and I'm not convinced that this is His plan. Of course "national repentance" is an effect, not a cause - which you rightly brand by saying God sovereignly causes the repentance. And, with maybe the exception of Nineveh, nations never pull out of their dive, even though there are some glorious "swoops".  And even Nineveh was blasted 150 years later (see Nahum, is it?) to where nobody even stubbed their toe on the ruins for a couple a thousand years. It is true, His plan may not be reformation in the US for our grandkids. He might be done with us and is moving on to China, as the Gospel does the "world-around". Good, that gets us off the hook and we don't have to feel so bad about being partners with a thief. We can go ahead and take the benefits of cheap interest rates and subsidized health, education, and welfare in the comfort of knowing His plan is to destroy us thereby.