For this cause you pay tax

Why should we pay tax?
How should we punished, if at all, if we don't pay enough?

I invite any reader to improve upon my ideas and help us all come to a better answer, more representative of the instructions in the Bible, and more likely to promote the freedom and prosperity of families, churches, and nations, and more likely to get adopted by the most people? We can hope.

My basic thesis is that the obligation to pay taxes derives from the responsibility of men to support righteous civil government based on the Noahic Covenant, the crown-rights of our Owner Messiah, and on the case-laws of the Bible.

If men will not willingly participate in-, and contribute to- enforcing God's law, God will discipline them by using law-breakers to rob, enslave, and murder them.

That failure to pay tax to whom tax is due is a sin, but cannot be a crime that good men should punish bad men for not paying.

Failure to punish the crimes God defines in the way God defines is a sin that God punishes directly. He does not allow to men the function of punishing what is only sin and not defined, by Him, as a crime punishable by other men.

Any deviation from definitions in the case-law of the Bible cannot help being a form of [Punishing the innocent] or [Rewarding the guilty]. Someone has to define good and evil, sin and crime, innocence and guilt; and that Someone has to be  one, sovereign, ethical authority

First I propose some loose definitions of vocabulary:

god: that personal intelligence in a person's world view considered to be most strong and most good/loving/just/wise

religion: that view of what exists from which a person derives the concepts of personhood, good and evil, origin, meaning, and destiny.

Life: physical functions of the human body, spirit, and mind (and all that involves)

Sin: whatever actions are contrary to the goodness of a person's god.

Liberty: the free, uncoerced, and un-threatened thoughts, words, and actions of a human limited by the concepts of god, religion, and sin.

Crime: actions of a human that should be punished by other humans by taking away the criminal's life, comfort, honor, liberty, or property.

Ethical authority: that which determines good and evil regarding sin and crime in accordance with the god of the religion.

Tax: wealth (usually money) that someone under the jurisdiction of a civil government is required to pay under threat of losing property, freedom, or life.

Contribution: wealth offered voluntarily to another

Financial timeline http://www.bankrate.com/finance/federal-reserve/financial-crisis-timeline.aspx?ec_id=m1116059&ef_id=WqVOLu-gbFoAAAPO:20140614013624:s

june 13 wrap http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-13/american-empire-fire-weekly-wrap-june-13-2014

<12/21 Sin blinds. If sin is not taken care of, it takes away people's ability to reason, to respond to cause-and-effect data, to benefit from warning signs. Remember Pharoah -- after all the plagues, after pausing all night because of this black-hole, fiery wall between his army and the Israelites -- standing on the shore of the Red Sea, yelling CHARGE!

This has to be the explanation of why global citizens are so insistent on the normalcy of our preposterous taxation levels in this century. An example of contradictory reasoning can be found in the court cases that thrashed out our current tax policy over the decades. Taken from Wikipedia:

The Court then enunciated what is now understood by Congress and the Courts to be the definition of taxable income, "instances of undeniable accessions to wealth, clearly realized, and over which the taxpayers have complete dominion."

The slip in logic here appears to be that if ownership means control of something (complete dominion), the reality of tax philosophy is that the civil government has complete, sovereign control over all men, their labor, and the property they own -- and decides how much allowance for the slaves' expenses can be withheld by the slave before his productivity is turned over to his master/owner. Penalties for paying insufficient tax demonstrate the real ownership claimed by the civil government. People believe the government is authorized to control your property, your freedom, and your life should you fail to turn over what belongs to it. The right to take/control comes from the right of ownership.

Yet, here in the Land of the Free, we all think the world is envious of our free autonomy -- as President Bush said after 9/11:

"They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other."

Taxes are about ownership. Taxes are rents or fines. Taxes are the final witness of who owns who.

Taxes are always religious because they deal with morality, theft, and law.

Taxes are huge.

All the mechanical power of international bankers and their handmaiden -- human civil government -- derives from collected taxes, borrowing on future hope of collection of taxes, and the gains from the inflation-tax by pretending to increase monetary units.

This mechanical power is made possible through the faith (mostly unconscious) that vacillates back and forth between each individual being god and center of the universe, and (since that is so obviously silly and indefensible) that Man-The-Collective, in the guise of the county-to-federal civil government complex -  is the owner of all land, labor, money, and sovereign over how they are to be traded between men (think - 'commerce clause' in the Constitution).

There are -- besides our favorite idea that we are the smartest, most knowledgeable, intelligences in the universe with the most Rights -- basically two religions: The one where Someone loves us, and symbolically feeds us all blessings represented by His own flesh and blood, and the religion where we combine with other men and make up our own rules whereby the Collective supposedly feeds us all blessings (entitlements) by symbolically eating up our flesh and blood by coercing from us the fruit of our lives by means of direct and indirect taxation.

We must change gods.

Two ideas are a great aid to understanding how the God of the Bible wants us to think about taxes.

All questions about taxes will be determined from the concept of ownership. The other idea is the concept of rental: to pay for the use of  what belongs to another.

The old English word for Owner was Lord (as in landlord, or the idea of 'master' if referring to our labor). If we are going come to a mature and just concept of taxation, we must change our idea of who owns us and the output of our living. Its easy to say, "God owns everything", which the Bible surely affirms, but it only becomes helpful (and sometimes hard) when we begin to apply His rules for stewardship in the family's relationship of human-to-human relationships

“Rent” is another concept closely related to taxation. Property tax is really a rent payment. In my area, if you don't pay your property taxes for 36 months, you are evicted by the sheriff and your “leasehold” is auctioned off to an new tenant who will pay the rent/tax. The whole country of Israel was compared to a vineyard, in one of Jesus's parables, where His role was the 'tribute collector', as son of the owner, The tenants killed Him and threw outside the vineyard.

When it comes to ownership, so far I have identified 4 ways something can be owned:

- creation/manufacture

- gift/inheritance

- trade

- win it in a fair fight or just war

So, who has the right of ownership over us, our work, and the land and resources around us?

If we start at the beginning of the Bible we immediately see God as the owner by Creation. Man's stewardship is given by God so that we can say, in a lesser sense, families “own” parts of the earth, and the livestock and 'property' on that section of earth.

Gen 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” 29 Then God said, “Behold, I have given you ….....

Now dominion was intended to be by man over land, plants, and animals. If man is going to be fruitful and multiply, he will need to know which wife is his and which woman is his neighbor's. He will need to know which children are his and which are his neighbor's. As he takes dominion over the animals, he will have to know which animals he can shear, harness, kill, and eat without robbing his neighbor. He will have tools for working the land and taking care of his animals, and will have to know which tools are his and which are his neighbor's.

After sin comes in to the world, we find man subject to ownership himself dominated by other created things. Implied, if not specifically stated in the text, is hostile, unnatural 'ownership' by Satan.

Job 1:7 The Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it.”

“Walking around on it” (KJV 'walking up and down in it') was a figure of speech implying ownership.

From the preamble to the 10 Commandments we see Israel as a son being redeemed back out of slavery and in this case, possibly an example of 'winning in a fair fight' when we think of the 10 plagues on Pharaoh, his people, and the land of Egypt.

Ex. 20:2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

'Land' represents man's property in real estate, money, or any other 'stuff'. “House” implies personal work-slavery where your labor is owned by another and you are in his 'house' in the sense that the slave-master provides 'room and board', and pays the basic expenses to keep you alive and strong to maximize the value of your work.

Israel, coming out of Egypt, belonged to Yahweh by creation, and now 'won in a fair fight' with the Firstborns especially belonging to God because of the redemption (paid for) by the substituted lamb of the Passover.Yahweh took care of their "room and board" and protected them out in the desert between Egypt and Canaan for 40 years.

Then Israel was given the land of Canaan, but they also had to win it in a fair fight, although Rahab and the men of the city states of Gibeon willingly surrendered and gave over title deed to their bodies and land to God's Stewards.

Joshua 9:11,21 So our elders and all the inhabitants of our country spoke to us, saying, ‘Take provisions in your hand for the journey, and go to meet them and say to them, “We are your servants; now then, make a covenant with us.”’......So they became hewers of wood and drawers of water for the whole congregation ....”

In the normative function of land and labor under God's law – Families owned land by inheritance that was protected by right of redemption, and/or return to the family after 7 or 49 years. Strict rules guarded any period of servitude for non-crime labor-rental of work. Covenant members could not freely contract a covenant-member servant/employee agreement for more than 6 years.

During the period of the Judges, we start seeing the nation paying tribute or taxes to the surrounding nations. This was promised in the covenant if the nation disobeyed and rejected her rightful master and enslaved herself willingly to a new master.

Dt. 28:29b-33, 68 …...but you shall only be oppressed and robbed continually, with none to save you. 30 You shall betroth a wife, but another man will violate her; you shall build a house, but you will not live in it; you shall plant a vineyard, but you will not use its fruit. 31 Your ox shall be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will not eat of it; your donkey shall be torn away from you, and will not be restored to you; your sheep shall be given to your enemies, and you will have none to save you. 32 Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, while your eyes look on and yearn for them continually; but there will be nothing you can do. 33 A people whom you do not know shall eat up the produce of your ground and all your labors, and you will never be anything but oppressed and crushed continually.......68 The Lord will bring you back to Egypt [slavery experience] in ships, by the way about which I spoke to you, ‘You will never see it again!’ And there you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but there will be no buyer.”

After generations of suffering the “spankings” by other nations for their disobedience, Israel mistakenly thought if they could get a human king who would 'judge us and fight our battles' maybe they could disobey and use false concepts of god to get freedom and prosperity without having to obey God's laws. Samuel promised them they would regret this, since now God would just have to keep His covenant by 'spanking' them with a king-and-each-other instead of just other nations.

I Sam 8:7 The Lord said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in regard to all that they say to you, for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me from being king over them. 8 Like all the deeds which they have done since the day that I brought them up from Egypt even to this day—in that they have forsaken Me and served other gods—so they are doing to you also. 9 Now then, listen to their voice; however, you shall solemnly warn them and tell them of the procedure of the king who will reign over them.”

10 So Samuel spoke all the words of the Lord to the people who had asked of him a king. 11 He said, “This will be the procedure of the king who will reign over you: he will take your sons and place them for himself in his chariots and among his horsemen and they will run before his chariots. 12 He will appoint for himself commanders of thousands and of fifties, and some to do his plowing and to reap his harvest and to make his weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will also take your daughters for perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and your vineyards and your olive groves and give them to his servants. 15 He will take a tenth of your seed and of your vineyards and give to his officers and to his servants. 16 He will also take your male servants and your female servants and your best young men and your donkeys and use them for his work. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his servants. 18 Then you will cry out in that day because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”

9 Nevertheless, the people refused to listen to the voice of Samuel, and they said, “No, but there shall be a king over us, 20 that we also may be like all the nations, that our king may judge us and go out before us and fight our battles.”

Sure enough, by Solomon's reign we see taxes, military ramp-up, and forced labor in big building projects (internal improvements). Solomon's son could have relaxed this painful tax burden, but since the nation had too much momentum in in the idol worship Solomon permitted to recur -- God tells us that Rehoboam and the young men were given over to an irrational, uneconomical conviction that increasing tax amounts or percentages would increase government revenue -- all for the purpose of removing the stewardship of governing from the descendants of Solomon and that generation that were lapsing back into idolatry.

1 Kings 12:13 The king answered the people harshly, for he forsook the advice of the elders which they had [g]given him, 14 and he spoke to them according to the advice of the young men, saying, “My father made your yoke heavy, but I will add to your yoke; my father disciplined you with whips, but I will discipline you with scorpions.” 15 So the king did not listen to the people; for it was a turn of events from the Lord, that He might establish His word, which the Lord spoke through Ahijah the Shilonite to Jeroboam the son of Nebat.

16 When all Israel saw that the king did not listen to them, the people answered the king, saying,

“What portion do we have in David?
We have no inheritance in the son of Jesse;
To your tents, O Israel!
Now look after your own house, David!

So Israel departed to their tents. 17 But as for the sons of Israel who lived in the cities of Judah, Rehoboam reigned over them. 18 Then King Rehoboam sent Adoram, who was over the forced labor, and all Israel stoned him to death. And King Rehoboam made haste to mount his chariot to flee to Jerusalem. 19 So Israel has been in rebellion against the house of David to this day.

According to the Declaration and the Constitution, those founding documents of our American (Masonic) Civil Religion,  our rights originally may have come from God, but now we belong to ourselves, and the focus is on rights instead of responsibilities. It is up to us to draft -- by majority vote -- whatever laws seem best to us. WeThePeople can easily figure out how best to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. We do not need God's Word any more to define good and evil. Remember, we were told, if we disobeyed, we would not surely die, we could become like god, knowing good and evil in ourselves. What could possibly go wrong?

Remember, all these blessings listed above are the blessings Yahweh promises to His covenant people when they honor Him, His covenant, and the leaders and judges who teach and exact compliance to His law. But He also promised to take these blessings away if, and when, they turned away and despised the protections His law gave them from the tyranny of sinful civil rulers.

No sweat. We just need to get a maximum number of folks to vote, and we are guaranteed to come up with the best way to force people to be free and prosperous. And if our-, or any other nation, does not want to be free and prosperous, well, our police and military will just have to coerce them to be free whether they like it or not.

How's is working out for ya?

Any questions about taxes presupposes a concept of ownership:

Only an owner can give.

Only an owner can justly demand the surrender of his property which is under the control of another party.

When rights of ownership are violated, this is where we use the words: theft, steal, confiscate, plunder, extort, exact, levy.

What percentage -- or fixed amount -- of a man's income (or standing wealth) does he owe in tax?

What punishment should be applied to the human that fails to pay his minimum tax?

In deciding the just penalty for those who steal – should government punish by taking away a double restitution of property? Should it incarcerate to idleness, coerce productive slavery, or should it execute?

Should tax be  100% and have the government provide all our needs on an equal basis? Or should we roll it back to 0%, let people provide for their own needs, and let the government receive voluntary contributions?

And, once we collect what the government needs to operate, what are they supposed to do with that wealth? What other crimes (besides not paying taxes) do  we punish? How do we punish them? How do we punish government officers who utilize the tax-money collected to punish  the innocent or reward the undeserving?

Are there any functions the officers and employees of civil government could perform with that taxed wealth – which would be punishable by being outside the allowable functions of civil government?

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For This Cause:

Rom 13…..for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. 5 Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for rulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing.

Let's consider the two main passages in the Bible that inform us about taxes. I think all of us would like to know how much tax we need to pay, or how much tax the government is authorized to collect from us. Whoever is making laws needs to have good answers to these questions.

We would not like to pay any more than we have to, nor do we want to pay a tax-preparer or accountant any more than we have to to figure it all out every year.

I would like to propose a basic answer to the tax questions that I haven't seen in other writing. After 6,000 years, any new answer has to be highly suspect.

Your job in feedback is to improve upon it and help us all come to a more refined answer, even more representative of the instructions in the Bible, and more likely to promote the freedom and prosperity of families, churches, and nations.

My basic premise is that the obligation to pay taxes derives from the responsibility of men to support righteous civil government based on the Noahic Covenant.

That failure to pay tax to whom tax is due is a sin, but cannot be a crime that good men should punish bad men for not paying.

Failure to punish the crimes God defines in the way God defines is a sin that God punishes directly. He does not allow to men the function of punishing what is only sin and not defined, by Him, as a crime punishable by other men.

Any deviation from this is what we call [Punishing the innocent] or [Rewarding the guilty].

First I propose some loose definitions of vocabulary:

god: that entity in a person's world view considered to be most strong and most good/loving/just/wise

religion: that view of what exists from which a person derives the concepts of personhood, good and evil, origin, meaning, and destiny.

Life: physical functions of the human body, spirit, and mind (and all it contains)

Sin: whatever actions are contrary to the goodness of a person's god.

Liberty: the free, uncoerced, and unthreatened thoughts, words, and actions of a human limited by the concepts of god, religion, and sin.

Crime: actions of a human that should be punished by other humans by taking away the criminal's life, liberty, or property.

Ethical authority: that universally recognized ability to accurately explain and clarify sin and crime in accordance with the god of the religion.

Tax: that amount of wealth (usually money) that someone under the jurisdiction of a civil government is required to pay under threat of losing property, freedom, or life.

Contribution: wealth offered voluntarily to another

I have seen about 3 views of what to do with this passage in Romans 13.

Ignore it, doesn't apply. The American Constitution brought in a new, glorious era of freedom for Mankind. Now all men see that righteous government consists of whatever laws the Majority are in favor of. We do not need the instruction of Scripture any more, only accurate elections.

Because of the bad things government will do to us, better to always obey it [unless you know you won't get caught]. God will not condemn you for anything the government is making you do , since He ordained it.

This passage gives a narrow definition of what can be coerced by men, and it is the responsibility of good men and true, to support righteous government - judged by God's laws and standards.

1. Since God has ordained the kind of government we have, it is safe to do, even if the text of the Bible says otherwise:

• Refrain from doing what they say not to do, even if god says it is ok to do.

• Refrain from doing what god says not to do, even if govt permits it.

• go along with what they command lest we be punished even if it means disobeying a principle of the Bible.

• Do what they permit even if it means disobeying a principle of the Bible

• resist what they command or allow if it means disobeying a principle of the Bible

• Anything the government authorizes or demands is ok to do. You are just following orders.

• benefits us at the expense of others). The only exception is if they tell us we cannot do what God has commanded us to do, or prohibit us from doing something God requires us to do.

Romans 13

13 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.

And yet, God puts in place both kinds of civil rulers. One kind is predominantly opposed to Messiah and His law, and one kind is predominantly respectful of King Jesus and His laws. We know God's moral will is that the people obey Him whereby He will bless them with good leaders who honor Him as their Head of civil government, and who will protect the life, liberty, and property of the families of the realm.

2 Therefore [c]whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for [d]good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority?

1. All the power of government is backed by the sword, equivalent to the threat of capital punishment. This follows the Biblical case-law about contumacy. If the criminal despises all legitimate authority shown by human government -- he is killed.

2. God's revelation must define what is evil. Only in the Bible can we trust God's definitions of sin and crime.

3. Government avenges God's wrath, not man's.

4. Punishment for evil can come from two sources, external consequences from responsible law enforcement from other humans who manage to observe, apprehend and punish the criminal; and internal consequences from the individual's own conscience.

5. Men faithfully carrying out the purpose God has for righteous government deserve your contributions. Besides your individual responsibility to participate in executing justice according to your station, you may be obligated to contribute to the effect service of other men in governing over men for God.

Mt. 22:

15 Then the Pharisees went and plotted together how they might trap Him in what He said. 16 And they *sent their disciples to Him, along with the Herodians, saying, “Teacher, we know that You are truthful and teach the way of God in truth, and defer to no one; for You are not partial to any. 17 Tell us then, what do You think? Is it lawful to give a poll-tax to Caesar, or not?” 18 But Jesus perceived their malice, and said, “Why are you testing Me, you hypocrites? 19 Show Me the coin used for the poll-tax.” And they brought Him a denarius. 20 And He *said to them, “Whose likeness and inscription is this?” 21 They *said to Him, “Caesar’s.” Then He *said to them, “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s.” 22 And hearing this, they were amazed, and leaving Him, they went away.

1. This is a poll-tax, not an income tax.

2. God decides what is His and what is Caesar's. Everything Caesar has, legitimately, has been assigned by God. Not everything Caesar claims would belong to him.

3. God's law may command us to give specific things to Caesar in accordance with divine assignment.

4. It is more important for men to render to God what is due Him, than to render to Caesar what is due to him.

 18 But Jesus perceived their malice, and said, “Why are you testing Me, you hypocrites?

Hypocrites because they were really not concerned about what was lawful. They were trying to get Jesus coerced, jailed, or killed whichever way they could, even though He had not broken any of the laws of God. They were presenting themselves as sincerely wanting to worship and serve the God of their Scriptures, when neither they nor their Fathers actually understood or obeyed those writings. Their occupation by the Romans was background witness to that – as being under the judgement of God.

19 Show Me the coin used for the poll-tax.” And they brought Him a denarius. 20 And He *said to them, “Whose likeness and inscription is this?” 21 They *said to Him, “Caesar’s.”

There were various coins available in Jesus' day that would have had Caesar's bust and inscription on them. See here for some examples. They like to use the latin word “divine” referring to Caesar. Some had Pontifex Maximus (highest priest). In so many words they advertised that all men ought to regard these sinful, mortal monarchs as worthy of respect, reverence, obedience and support. And we should honor the One the gods have designated as being their best representative in communicating their will to human society (prophet), the best intermediary between men and the gods. Even though the gods might not listen to you and honor your requests, if you could communicate your needs to the human representative, the gods would listen to him and you would be more likely to get your wishes granted (now we are talking – priest). And, of course, when men do things that disrespect or anger the gods, that would bring down their wrath on society, so the human son of the gods needs to keep order by punishing crime so that the gods don't destroy the whole culture.

Then He *said to them, “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s.” 22 And hearing this, they were amazed, and leaving Him, they went away.

Do it from the inside by mathematically overloading the debt load and that will destroy the US dollar which will then allow a, probably, new global currency backed by the Russians, the Chinese, perhaps the BRIC nations (w/India, China) to get them to establish a new currency with perhaps some involvement with the Middle East as well.

And if you destroy the US Dollar you basically destroy the United States.

What is the end game?

…..Not good at all. I see a totally systemic collapse of the United States, I see a totally systemic collapse of the US Dollar and the financial system, which is why I urge everybody to GET OUT, GET OUT, GET OUT. And if you don't understand what GET OUT means, then there is nothing I can do to help you....

What is the matter with you? Why are you even still paying taxes? At this point, paying taxes is like paying taxes into the Third Reich. Really? You are a German in 1941, and you have a conscience and you have a brain in your head.....why are you paying taxes to Hitler? That's exactly what is going on here. A mass Federal Tax strike would go a long way to correcting all of this, but, of course, people are so chicken, and so terrified of the IRS... oh, no, we can't do that...

What are you afraid of? How are you going to fix this? How are you going to correct this political system? If you refuse to do anything on the tactical, offensive side? If all you are willing to do is cower and hide, and play private defense – how are you going to fix any of this? You have to go on offense. You have to fix your bayonet and you have to charge. You have to be proactive. Do what I did. Declare a Federal Tax strike. If enough people do that, you know, maybe the government would get the message ...if tens of millions of Americans, just didn't file. Really, IRS? You want to come audit all of us? You bring it...we are not paying for this anymore. You are paying for a cult of child-sacrifice. You are paying for a cult of the ratification of sodomy, and you are paying to arm Mohammedans who are coming to kill you. How in the world can you justify this anymore? A Federal Tax strike would go a long way.

So my 4-point plan is

A. media strike: cancel your cable and satellite

B. Tax strike,

C. Eventually it will come to the fact that we should be doing general strikes which means a total work stoppage. You don't go to point 'c' until you've done the first two because point 'c', a general strike, actually harms the businesses of your neighbors, but, as we saw with solidarity in Poland, general strikes do have a place, and they do eventually need to be utilized. And then once you've done points 'a', 'b', and 'c', if those don't work, that's when we go to...

D. Armed counter-revolution, and remember, we are not revolutionaries. Revolution means turning away from God-- that is what the Obama regime is, that's what Marxism is – a rejection and a turning away from God. We want to turn back to God, we want to be a godly, moral society with the rule of law. That means that we are counter-revolutionaries. Never call yourself a revolutionary. You are always a counter-revolutionary, wanting to turn back towards God.

Ann Barnhardt Barnhardt.biz

Core pillars of Who Jesus Is:

John 12:13 You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for so I am.

Lk 23:23 Then the whole body of them got up and brought Him before Pilate. ² And they began to accuse Him, saying, “We found this man misleading our nation and forbidding to pay taxes to Caesar, and saying that He Himself is Christ, a King.”

Do you see the connection between Teacher and "misleading our nation"?

Do you see the connection between Lord and "forbidding to pay taxes"?

Not so obvious, until you remember that 'lord' means 'owner'. Both Adonai (Hebrew) and Kurios (Greek)

See mcdurmon on render unto caesar http://americanvision.org/3570/render-unto-god-what-is-gods-you-too-caesar/

Wilson http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/sure-lets-call-it-a-contribution.html

Sure. Let’s Call It a Contribution

http://dougwils.com/s7-engaging-the-culture/the-5-smooth-stones-of-theocratic-libertarianism.html